Icemod: What's your most powerful race design?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:13 am
I'm curious to know what race you find most powerful with this mod. So far it seems like something unification or democracy is strongest.
Master of Orion II discussion forum
https://www.spheriumnorth.com/orion-forum/nfphpbb/
https://www.spheriumnorth.com/orion-forum/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33519
Be careful with such questions, as they show that you just post and dont read. Say, that means what some of your other questions could been answered long ago too.How do you guys play multiplayer these days anyways?
MP is possible on a crappy previous centuries PCs & notebooks while dosbox is exactly the program which is needed for MP.I play on a tablet in dosbox, I don't think multiplayer would be possible for me.
There could be one race or another, you couldn't know if you don't play. Rephrasing your words "discussion against humans is just too much a time sink" and no result. I prefer to find out everything on practice. If you are up to we can try.So no one has any race recommendations here?
So I take it form this you don't believe playing against the AI is a good test of a race? I'm sure getting "tested" by playing against the AI. As far as "discussion against humans... etc" I'm not sure what this means but what I meant is that it takes a long time to play games in multiplayer. It's been many years since I've played one, maybe 15 years or more, but I remember that playing just 1 game took a tremendous amount of time. I could play several games against the AI in that time.There could be one race or another, you couldn't know if you don't play. Rephrasing your words "discussion against humans is just too much a time sink" and no result. I prefer to find out everything on practice.
I always play with pop modifers like tolerant or sub and I did happen to notice how you changed most of the AI races to have a pop modifier, that's how powerful those racial picks are. Growth is important too, but I am already quite the expert at expansion and housing. It's just that hard to play icex on strategic. I challenge you to try playing a few games to completion without the advantageous tactical mode and see what race does best. I'm actually starting to get the hang of the dictatorship spy race I listed. I don't normally play dictatorships but you've made some good changes to make it more appealing. Namely more accessible moral techs.Population growth is key.
Things will improve if you included a pop growth in your race, +50% or +100%.
A big difference between ice and ice-x is that in x, all races have a pop growth %
Also most have a max pop modifier like Aqua, Subt or Tol.
From a post in Civfanatics you said that you can feel 'Lithovorish' in ice because your tech path in Biology is Hydro and Subt Farms. These farms are actually not cheap at 1 BC per food and moreover, it means you are skipping on Biospheres and Cloners.
Then there is the art of housing. This is a good video to watch the process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvmHMwO ... Za3cuy6Keg
Also a good guide for empire expansion:
http://masteroforion2.blogspot.nl/2005/ ... guide.html
AI is very random. You can get different AI races as opponents at a time and result will be different. If you want to see the race's performance as it is, it's better to play without any AI at all.So I take it form this you don't believe playing against the AI is a good test of a race?
I tried to make a joke rephrasing your "playing vs humans takes a lot of time". What I really meant is the time you spend on writing posts in the forums takes more time than you would spend it on a game with human player. I saw how many posts you wrote in CIV forum and would be enough to finish at least several games with human.As far as "discussion against humans... etc" I'm not sure what this means but what I meant is that it takes a long time to play games in multiplayer.
Hahah. Hey, I type around 45-60 words per minute. I much prefer single player, but I may try multiplayer sometime soon. I assume in many ways it's much easier to beat a human than the cheating AI.I tried to make a joke rephrasing your "playing vs humans takes a lot of time". What I really meant is the time you spend on writing posts in the forums takes more time than you would spend it on a game with human player. I saw how many posts you wrote in CIV forum and would be enough to finish at least several games with human.
Depends on opponent's skill and also on AI race designs. If you encounter human with low skills it could be that tough AI can put up higher opposition than weak human.I assume in many ways it's much easier to beat a human than the cheating AI.