Please suggest conditions for setting population record

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Catalyst_Kh
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Please suggest conditions for setting population record

Postby Catalyst_Kh » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:21 am

Hi people, please suggest what are the conditions for setting fair population record in MOO2.

Several years ago I visited #moo2 channel for a little time, and I recall it was said there about Cabman's record for population, like 250 at turn 100. I looked for this now and found it is mentioned here and there.

Couple of times I accidentally had over 200 pop at turn 100 in normal games, when most pop was researching, but if all folks would build colony ships instead, and more housing, I am interested - can a reach beyond 250 pop or not. :)

Please share your thoughts, what are the valid conditions for setting such a record. I mean, what starting parameters should be, galaxy settings, what mapgen parameters allowed (or obligatory).

If it should be original 1.31 version, which starting system will be valid for a record attempt? I mean, I can make many restarts, until there will be super great starting system with 5 planets, so, what are the limits for this, to qualify for the fair record?

Is it okay to make an attempt in VDC mod? For example, starting in huge (or cluster) organic rich galaxy, average tech, with the following string:
VDCOR /planets=5 /monsters=0 /nonebula /noorion /nowh /nobh
Should mapgen -t fixedhw be used? Is mapgen -t toxic -t upoor allowed? Should [/i]/nosplint[/i] be used? Or another /monsters settings?

Would be thankful for your input on that question.

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Postby Overlord2 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:22 pm

Please share your thoughts, what are the valid conditions for setting such a record. I mean, what starting parameters should be, galaxy settings, what mapgen parameters allowed (or obligatory).

The conditions are same as the most played MP settings (large, average, organic rich):
Regular moo:
orion2~1.exe /skipintro /minstart /planets=4 /nosplint /nobh /nowh /noorion /noreport /nonebula

sometimes nonebula switch is skipped.

VDC mod:

VDCGM2.exe /skipintro /nobh /nowh /nonebula /planets=5 /nosplint /noorion /noreport
mapgen.exe -tfixedhw -ttoxic -ttiny -tupoor -ssplint -mmonst -tlowg -sarti -tgaia
CRYOGEN.exe (for uncreative)
VDCGM2.exe /skipintro /nobh /nowh /nonebula /planets=5 /nosplint /noorion /noreport

Here are the reference saves:
Cabman's record for regular moo (SP):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?bpoku3gqvze2zio

My pop record and best performance in VDC (MP):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?izhaa84t4fofnxh
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?s2t1nlg8dpsrz9q
Btw, opponent showed one of the best performance with demo.

Cabman's best performance in VDC (popwise) (MP):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/06iu3dpulzz750q/SAVE1.GAM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/y6jvqy33r2v8wae/SAVE7.GAM

Catalyst_Kh
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Postby Catalyst_Kh » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:18 pm

Thank you very much Irakly! Very good stuff, now I have a nice task in front. :)


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